i would just blame me
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I can see that because I would think the stiffer the shaft and based on the OEM it can take all the feel out of it and make you ignore what the head it providing at impact.Had a long talk with a now retired club designer yesterday, who's resume is pretty stellar. He said in his testing and working with everything from tour players to high handicaps, one thing held true.
If he handed a player a club with a shaft that was too soft, and they hit it, they said the shaft was not for them.
If he handed a player a club with a shaft that was too stout, and they hit it, they said they didnt like the club head.
Both of those things are regardless of results.
Do you agree or disagree? And why?
No, feel is a real thing for golfers.I was with you until "Both of those things are regardless of results."
If the results were great, was the shaft really too soft or too stiff?
Was he presenting this as a case study of the ego of the golfer? If the golfer knew what they were hitting, it sure seems to point to the fact that people innately want to play a stiffer shaft, whether it is right for them or not. Makes you wonder how many fittings would come to the same conclusion if they were done blind.
Sorry for the segue, but I was talking to a fitter last year and he had a customer looking for a new driver. They tried a variety of head/shaft combos, but nothing was any real improvement over his current driver. The fitter handed him another driver, the guy hit it, and was gaining a legitimate 20 yards. He got very excited. Then he looked down at the shaft and saw it was "L" flex. He told the fitter he only plays stiff flex and would never play ladies flex. Not only did the guy leave 20 yards on the table he insisted on buying a new driver even though it was no better than his current one. Heck, I would play a pink, Hello Kitty shaft if it got 20 more yards, lol.Makes sense. Seems like an ego thing to me. "This is a X flex-must be the head"
I can't disagree...I'll take his word for it that these were observations from his clients.No, feel is a real thing for golfers.
After 50 years in the industry and one of my mentors in club design aspects, it was just a conversation.
In the case of him working with players, half the time the shafts aren't even labled, so it wouldn't necessarily be an ego thing.
Perception?If the club head is the same, my question would be why isn't the club head identified in both scenarios? Is there something with the stiffness that affects that feel?
Maybe. I only offer this... My AI Smoke Max does feel different between the R flex tensei and the S flex Kaili white. Not the shaft flex, but the contact feels different but I think that is just me misinterpreting what is causing the club head to feel that way vs the shaft flex... If that makes sense.Perception?