mhuelsman131
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Makes sense to leave the ratings out of it now that you spell it out like that. Hadn't thought of it that way.
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I just don't get how you can have a 2010 or 2011 hot list and not mention the cleveland niblick. That said I do enjoy reading the issue and like everyone find the forum on Hackers to be more insightful.
Oops, now that's just funny.I tried using a different screen name (again) because I was banned last year.
Dont think theyre current product?
Maybe I am wrong, but I seem to recall that the editors of GD said that the 'demand' category did not factor into the official results. Though it's hard to see why its there or explain some of the results in that case.
I wonder though if the results are because of what the testers said they would buy or 'want' afterwards. In that case I bet a lot of the want, especially from those without much knowledge of the industry, would be based on what they know or what they have seen advertised (in GD and other places). Since Callaway and TM flood the ad world it's not hard hard to see how many would choose those drivers over a Sixron one- even if the Sixron performed well or better.
The rankings then are more about how each is predicted to sell rather then strictly how well each performs. Hence it is a 'Hot List' and not a performance ranking. Last year the Mizuno MX700 was loved by the testers and shown to be the lowest spinning and one of the longest drivers in the GD test- but got a silver. And I am sure the sales were 'silver' as well.
I still like the GD issue, and the Golf Magazine review issue one as well- but I can't think of anything I bought in the last 5 years based on the ranking in those magazines.
I just don't get how you can have a 2010 or 2011 hot list and not mention the cleveland niblick.
this is interesting to me. I work in the industry and play golf all over the place. outside of this forum....I have never seen a cleveland niblick in a bag, on a shelf, or mentioned in causal conversation.
it must have a cult following or something.
Yet based on their volume of sales (in terms of pieces) they sold more Niblicks than quite a few companies sold wedges.
I'm not disputing that they haven't sold....just that I've not seen them in along my path. I've not looked at volume numbers for them so I'll take your word for it. sites like yours, JB assist equipment manufacturers in getting the word out about products that some might never get otherwise. wouldn't you agree? it's a good thing.
but that doesn't change the fact that I have never seen one in a bag. maybe they hype hasn't hit my area yet. our cleveland rep will need to send us one so we can give it a go. he's never mentioned it before.
this is interesting to me. I work in the industry and play golf all over the place. outside of this forum....I have never seen a cleveland niblick in a bag, on a shelf, or mentioned in causal conversation.
it must have a cult following or something.
I've never seen a niblick either. Which begs the question, if they are so hot on having mid and high-handicappers playing GI and SGI irons, why do they only review "players" wedges? Many manufacturers make gap, sand, and LW's to go along with their sets yet you never see those reviewed. However, those wedges would probably be better for the average golfer than a Vokey, a JAWS, or a CG15.
To those testing the Mashie, Silver or Gold?
I think the hot list is something that is useful from an eye candy and information gathering perspective.