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THere is more to it than that Paul. Perimeter weighting and larger surface area to start with.
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THere is more to it than that Paul. Perimeter weighting and larger surface area to start with.
I dont think anybody said that on this forum despite what was said in that article. However Your thoughts support mine. Titleist possibly would have built Phil whatever he wanted, but maybe he hit those Callways and liked them more so he left. You dont think Titleist would have paid him?
Didnt Titleist let Phil out of his contract early. I think Callaway more than doubled what Titleist was paying him.
The same could be said about blade players. It seems like every forum that I read you have blade players who talk about the superior feel of blades and how blades make you a better player.I often wonder why cavity back players seem bound and determined that this issue never dies.
I can see why a tour pro would want every last bit of forgiveness. He already has grooved a good swing, so he can hit whatever he wants.
I can see why so many amateurs play Cavity backs....there is and endless torrent of anti-blade sentiment from club sellers and insecure CB players who can't be happy until they convince everyone that blade players are WRONG.
Wrong about what? I like to play golf for the fun and the challenge. Blades make me focus tremendously on my swing. They make me pay attention to every range ball.
Blades are what I grew up on. Blades are what I carried as a caddy at Chicago Golf. Blades look better at address.
I'll go so far as to say that anyone who can't hit the sweetspot from the 7 iron on down should take their $500 and buy a lifetime bucket card.
Oh, and by the way. The manufacturers who pay tour pros the most have a serious multi million dollar agenda that includes inexpensive CAST clubs for the masses. Cast clubs don't require skilled labor. If
Taylor Made paid me a few million, I'll tell you whatever they want me to tell you. I'd tell you that you should swing the new 2009 Taylor Made pick axes if they made them.
Forged blades are not that much harder to hit if you focus and don't try to swing out of your shoes every time. They keep you in tune with your swing better if you don't play everyday like a tour pro.
Don't believe everything you hear just because someone you THINK is an expert told you so. Find out for yourself so you will KNOW what works for you. cavity backs is like having sex with a neoprene condom on. No feel at all.
People who play blades are forced to always pay attention to their swing. That's part of the enjoyment of the game.
Sure they have mishits that a Cavity back would cover up.....but why?
I'd rather give up a stroke or two than give up the instant feedback. Playing
Ben Hogan found his swing by digging it out of the Texas dirt. He didn't rely on someone else's opinion. And I'm quite sure that he would not care one bit what anyone else played.
So for all you folks who seem dead sure about what I (and all blade players) should or should not be playing.....I ask "Why do you care?" Really. Think about it awhile. What possible benefit could you derive from proving us wrong?
I don't care what you play. Play whatever you want. Frankly, I don't care if Jack Nicklaus, Tiger Woods and Nick Faldo personally drive to my home to tell me I should play cavity backs and that I'm an ego-driven wannabe if I don't. They can turn around and leave, because I play blades for reasons I am comfortable with.
Never worry about what's in somebody else's bag or why. Worry about your own game. Everyone wants a quick fix these days. They crave "game improvement" clubs to mask swing flaws. They need articles and quotes from professional proxies that assuage their bruised egos about playing shovels.
Play what you like and let blade players do the same without rubbing their nose in the latest industry propaganda.
I often wonder why cavity back players seem bound and determined that this issue never dies.
I can see why a tour pro would want every last bit of forgiveness. He already has grooved a good swing, so he can hit whatever he wants.
I can see why so many amateurs play Cavity backs....there is and endless torrent of anti-blade sentiment from club sellers and insecure CB players who can't be happy until they convince everyone that blade players are WRONG.
Wrong about what? I like to play golf for the fun and the challenge. Blades make me focus tremendously on my swing. They make me pay attention to every range ball.
Blades are what I grew up on. Blades are what I carried as a caddy at Chicago Golf. Blades look better at address.
I'll go so far as to say that anyone who can't hit the sweetspot from the 7 iron on down should take their $500 and buy a lifetime bucket card.
Oh, and by the way. The manufacturers who pay tour pros the most have a serious multi million dollar agenda that includes inexpensive CAST clubs for the masses. Cast clubs don't require skilled labor. If
Taylor Made paid me a few million, I'll tell you whatever they want me to tell you. I'd tell you that you should swing the new 2009 Taylor Made pick axes if they made them.
Forged blades are not that much harder to hit if you focus and don't try to swing out of your shoes every time. They keep you in tune with your swing better if you don't play everyday like a tour pro.
Don't believe everything you hear just because someone you THINK is an expert told you so. Find out for yourself so you will KNOW what works for you. cavity backs is like having sex with a neoprene condom on. No feel at all.
People who play blades are forced to always pay attention to their swing. That's part of the enjoyment of the game.
Sure they have mishits that a Cavity back would cover up.....but why?
I'd rather give up a stroke or two than give up the instant feedback. Playing
Ben Hogan found his swing by digging it out of the Texas dirt. He didn't rely on someone else's opinion. And I'm quite sure that he would not care one bit what anyone else played.
So for all you folks who seem dead sure about what I (and all blade players) should or should not be playing.....I ask "Why do you care?" Really. Think about it awhile. What possible benefit could you derive from proving us wrong?
I don't care what you play. Play whatever you want. Frankly, I don't care if Jack Nicklaus, Tiger Woods and Nick Faldo personally drive to my home to tell me I should play cavity backs and that I'm an ego-driven wannabe if I don't. They can turn around and leave, because I play blades for reasons I am comfortable with.
Never worry about what's in somebody else's bag or why. Worry about your own game. Everyone wants a quick fix these days. They crave "game improvement" clubs to mask swing flaws. They need articles and quotes from professional proxies that assuage their bruised egos about playing shovels.
Play what you like and let blade players do the same without rubbing their nose in the latest industry propaganda.
I'll give you a 3rd reason: golf is hard enough already, no sense in making it any harder.For me, I'll stick with CB's for two reasons. I'm not good enough for blades, and blades are too expensive.
I'll give you a 3rd reason: golf is hard enough already, no sense in making it any harder.
Blades would be good to practice with, because it would force you to make a better swing and you get more feedback.True, but if I could afford it...I wouldn't mind practicing with blades.
But yes, golf is fricking hard. I think it is easily the hardest sport. (With respect to hockey, the most athletically demanding sport)
The thing is though, that with CBs you are penalized less for your mishits, so you dont have to be as precise with your ballstriking.
but the vast majority of amateur golfers would benefit from playing CBs.
No matter what club you play, you still have to make a decent swing in order to get good results from it.
Not everyone has the time to devote to perfecting their swing. They just want to go out and enjoy themselves and thats what CBs offer. They allow someone with a swing which isnt always perfect to at least hit halfway decent shots.If you don't have to be as precise with your ball striking, then how do you know if your ballstriking is getting better, getting worse or just staying the same ?
An offset cavity back with a tungsten doo hickey may make you feel good in the short run when crappy shots start to look OK, but isn't that going to come back to bite you in the long run? You'll just stop improving because the feedback you need to improve has been muffled.
Golf is about the challenge of building a great swing, not about popping over to the course once a year and expecting to hit it 300 yards.
When you put in the work and build it, it won't matter what clubs you play, you will know that its YOU, and not the clubs that earned the score on the card.
There are no short cuts. I will never trade a good swing and the enjoyment of earning it plus $1000 bucks for a slightly better score. Everyone wants a quick fix. Every one wants to buy, buy buy their troubles away.
Not everyone has the time to devote to perfecting their swing. They just want to go out and enjoy themselves and thats what CBs offer. They allow someone with a swing which isnt always perfect to at least hit halfway decent shots.
Even with CBs, you still have to make a decent swing. Even with the most forgiving clubs in the world, you still need to have a pretty decent swing in order to card a good score.
Your attitude is a perfect example of what I mean when I talk about blade players acting like they are better than people who play CBs.
I think we all need to, "slow our roll". I didnt mean to attack people who play blades and I aplogize if I came across that way.This is true, and I will slow my roll here.
Cool. Sounds like a heck of a deal.I don't play cavity backs mainly because of the cost, backwards as that sounds. If you know what clubs the pros played in the 1980's, you can buy a tour quality set of blades for under $100 bucks now. I bought a full set of beautiful, mint condition Cleveland Tour Action 588T irons the other day at Golf Galaxy......for less than a tank of gas. Imagine that. A blade every bit as good as Titleist 680's for $50 bucks. I'll spend the other $950 dollars on buckets and rounds. Its the indian not the arrow.
What is this a WRX or TST thread?
Its the indian not the arrow.
I was thinking that too but I was too afraid to type it!