Yes, but some is not significant is it?
It is not nearly as significant as my DF's.
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Yes, but some is not significant is it?
I have to disagree with this science a bit mostly b/c it's quite simply a Muscle Cavity iron, and not a full cavity. The full Cavity would provide the club with "significant" perimeter weighting.
I also would think that the weight in the center of the cavity (the nut or whatever you guys are calling it) would assist in maintaining balance and more particularly, assisting in keeping that club face in a square position both throughout the swing and at impact. This is just my opinion though, and if I happen to be right, well then, it means you guys are doing some phenomenal things in being able to manipulate that face so much to successfully work the ball as well as you are (right and left).
I would imagine that the one shot that is easiest to pull off with these irons is the lower/punch type shots, especially for those of you who don't have the stock XP shafts. You guys having some good success with flighting the ball low so far?
You will get to hit mine LONG before demo-day dude!
Yet Setho just said that his DF's have more perimeter weighting and they are less forgiving? I'm just trying to understand here.
If you hit one out on the toe:
do you see yardage loss? if so, how significant?
How about the ball flight? straight, fade, draw?
I hit one off the toe the other day. It probably cost me about 10 yards, but it still flew pretty straight
thanks buddy! I am just trying to figure out the forgiveness of the MC's to the CB's
I will say that for the most part these seem to be pretty forgiving. I'm surprised with how forgiving the actually are, I wasn't really expecting it
I say the same exact thing about the MBs actually.I will say that for the most part these seem to be pretty forgiving. I'm surprised with how forgiving the actually are, I wasn't really expecting it
If you hit one out on the toe:
do you see yardage loss? if so, how significant?
How about the ball flight? straight, fade, draw?
I hit one off the toe the other day. It probably cost me about 10 yards, but it still flew pretty straight
STAND BACK! I am going to try SCIENCE!
I think there are two things going on here.
1. The club does have significant perimeter weighting. Looking around the cavity, the badge adds very little weight and the outside weighting of the club seems pretty formidable.
2. As it was explained to me- even after the club is designed for perimeter weighting the swing weights don't always match club to club (different amounts of metal in a 3i and a 7i, not to mention different lengths). So, in order to balance the swing weight, companies need to add a certain amount of weight to each iron to match the set and more often than not this is added to the hosel area on each iron (I don't have a source for this information, it is only how the guy at golftec explained it to me... If I am wrong I would love to be corrected!). Instead of doing that, TM put that extra weight back on the club through the weight ports and placed it directly behind the COG. This would allow for a much more balanced club because the extra weight is easily manipulated when it is on the COG.
I think it is a combination of these two features that accounts for the feeling we are trying to describe. It is a perimeter weighted/forgiving club with the "extra" weight put right on the COG making for both a forgiving and workable iron.
thank god i pre ordered these clubs keep reviews comming, post sum more pics haha
You have any angles that you would like to see?
If you hit one out on the toe:
do you see yardage loss? if so, how significant?
How about the ball flight? straight, fade, draw?
One-T,
I can't really tell you about mishits on the toe, as I have only had one since getting the clubs and it was on a windy range. My miss has been on the heel/hosel or high on the club face. I find that on the heel (as long as I don't catch the hosel) I get reasonable distance (short about 15 yards) and a good ball flight. As I joked before, I have hit the hosel once or twice that still produced a normal distance/shaped shot. The most punishing miss to me is high on the face. I hit a really high ball (I was playing a "punch" 7i higher than Seth was hitting a normal 8) and when I catch the ball high it turns whatever I am hitting into a wedge. The ball stays straight but I can loose 50+ yards of distance. I am working on this ball flight though and hopefully it disappears.
I got a chance to put these on a sim today and I continue to be impressed. My ball striking was by far the best part of my "round" and I hit several very good shots with these today. They sound just as nice indoors as they do on the range and it was something that BOTH of my playing partners mentioned immediately. I wont put a lot of stock into how they played today (83 on pebble beach) and I don't ever fully trust the simulator but I have a lot of hope that the next time these touch grass it is going to be something special!
I'm definitely seeing some yardage loss with off center hits, but the ball flight is staying pretty straight. More distance loss in long iron mis-hits than short irons, which is pretty normal I believe. A pretty bad toe shot with a 5 iron was costing me about 15 yards. With the PW, more like 5 yards.
Is your hosel round or flat?