TC
Keg Thrower
That's actually kind of what I thought tc. If the THP and Hacker's Paradise were rounding up slightly, it would loose it's blocky appearance. Not to mention feel a lot better on a hat. Then a slight fade of light to dark from left to right across the logo.
now that's a good idea, thanks duey for making sense out of my muddled mess. too bad i'm not at work today, we have a team of about 8 graphic designers that i could get building specs for me. maybe tomorrow.