CSI: Golf

[Golf Chick]

But poker isn't gambling (not like roulette or slots or any of the casino card games) if you understand the game. Now and then you may gamble on a hand when the circumstances are right, but if you play smart, play the odds, observe your opponents, and most of all have patience, it is more of a science. Most casual players either don't understand the mathematics of the game, or they lack the patience necessary to keep the odds in their favor.

I playing Texas Hold 'Em!! I came in 2nd in a poker tournament in Vegas several years ago

 

[Esox]

Insurance is a form of gambling.

Kevin

 

[ClairefromClare]

Insurance is a form of gambling.

Kevin

Yup, and I advocate only insuring what you can't afford to lose.

However prudish this sounds, gambling feels sinful to me. And not in a good way.

 

[Esox]

Marriage is a form of gambling. I think statistics show your chances of losing at marriage are about the same as losing at blackjack.

Kevin

 

[snicker.doodles]

Re: CSI: Golf

waking up and getting out of bed is a gamble.

ever the risk taker I am.....

 

[Smallville]

Insurance is a form of gambling.

Kevin

Unless required by law (auto insurance)!

And I'm more of the opinion that NOT having insurance is more gambling than HAVING insurance! (Except extended warranties . . . those are usually just stupid insurance)

 

[Esox]

Unless required by law (auto insurance)!

And I'm more of the opinion that NOT having insurance is more gambling than HAVING insurance! (Except extended warranties . . . those are usually just stupid insurance)

I never really looked at insurance as gambling until I heard that statement from my neighborino's wife, Maude Flanders.

Kevin

 

[Fourputt]

Investing in the stock market is a bigger gamble than poker if you are willing to study the game and learn how to play. If you know the game, Texas Hold'em is actually less of a gamble than the market because you have some personal control over the outcome. Understanding outs and odds, and taking the time to observe the play of the people at the table with you can make winning at the game a near certainty.

Naturally you will have runs where the cards just don't like you, but in the long run you can make the odds work in your favor, and that isn't gambling. No more than a salesman working on commission is gambling that he is going to sell enough product to make a living. He will have bad runs too, but he is betting on the long run. Same thing for a good poker player.

If you think that poker is just a gamble, I suggest that you don't try to sit at a table with someone who knows the game. You're the guy he is waiting for. :laughing:

 

[Golf Chick]

Investing in the stock market is a bigger gamble than poker if you are willing to study the game and learn how to play. If you know the game, Texas Hold'em is actually less of a gamble than the market because you have some personal control over the outcome. Understanding outs and odds, and taking the time to observe the play of the people at the table with you can make winning at the game a near certainty.

Naturally you will have runs where the cards just don't like you, but in the long run you can make the odds work in your favor, and that isn't gambling. No more than a salesman working on commission is gambling that he is going to sell enough product to make a living. He will have bad runs too, but he is betting on the long run. Same thing for a good poker player.

If you think that poker is just a gamble, I suggest that you don't try to sit at a table with someone who knows the game. You're the guy he is waiting for. :laughing:

When you have bad runs with cards, you just need to outplay your oponents!!

You play poker Fourputt??

 

[Fourputt]

When you have bad runs with cards, you just need to outplay your oponents!!

You play poker Fourputt??

I have a poker group that plays almost every Friday night (game starts tonight in 3½ hours ). We don't play Hold'em, but we try to keep it fairly sane, with nothing wild. It's a friendly game, and most games offer hi-low split pots.

I've played Hold'em a few times in the casinos here in Colorado, won a satellite table for a place in the Heartland Poker Tour, but I just took the cash. Those tournaments just run too long for me... I can't sit at a table and stay patient that long.

 

[Golf Chick]

I have a poker group that plays almost every Friday night (game starts tonight in 3½ hours ). We don't play Hold'em, but we try to keep it fairly sane, with nothing wild. It's a friendly game, and most games offer hi-low split pots.

I've played Hold'em a few times in the casinos here in Colorado, won a satellite table for a place in the Heartland Poker Tour, but I just took the cash. Those tournaments just run too long for me... I can't sit at a table and stay patient that long.

I hear ya!! In my tournament in Vegas, I was getting tired playing with just me and 1 other player, so I just decided to go all in on a 2-7 and hope for the best :laughing: Cashed in 2nd and called it a night!! You can sit there all day and all night long...

 

[Harry Longshanks]

CBS just showed the commercial for the CSI episode during the Colts/Ravens game.

 

[JB]

Just saw that. Might have to email The Duffy and call him a true celebrity now.

 

[Harry Longshanks]

This is on tomorrow this Thursday night.

Apparently, David Feherty and Gary McCord are also in the show.





Hopefully McCord is the one who dies.

 

[bonknhead]

This is on tomorrow night.

Apparently, David Feherty and Gary McCord are also in the show.

Hopefully McCord is the one who dies.

Um...Harry, CSI is on Thursday nights.

 

[Harry Longshanks]

Um...Harry, CSI is on Thursday nights.

I r a moran.

 

[ClairefromClare]

I r a moran.

Your post was dated Wednesday in real time.

Though I take no issue with your self-characterization.

 

[Smallville]

That wasn't too bad a show.

Spoiler

Was surprised when they figured out he accidentally killed himself. I hope Rocco wasn't too traumatized.

 

[Golf Chick]

I'm watching it right now

 

[Harry Longshanks]

I'm watching it right now

Me too.

Some initial observations:

Did anyone else immediately notice that the victim's bloody headcover was a Daphne's Panda?

[SIZE=-1]"Jupiter" and "Fuschida" balls? I guess none of the golf companies wanted to pay for a placement ad.[/SIZE]

Kevin Na didn't get any publicity for this!

Anyone else remember "Danny Nagano" from Veronica Mars?

Who wrote this episode, the USGA? Or maybe the PGA Tour in order to beef up interest since Tiger won't be around in the near future? Or maybe CBS's investment in broadcast rights needed a little shoring up in the wake of the Tiger scandal?

 

[Harry Longshanks]

Okay, I'm watching this DVR delayed. I'm at the point where Sara and whatshisname just found the father's golf bag at the private driving range. I'm going to take a guess here:

Spoiler

They aren't going to want to impugn the sport of golf any more than they already have by having it connected to murder. So, I'm guessing that the father was blowing off steam hitting balls at night, got angry about the cheating int he tournament, and slammed a club down, causing the shaft to shatter and impale him. He then jumped in his cart and tried to get to help, but bled out before he could make it.

EDIT: Oops.

Spoiler

Sara just said it looks like murder. I have no idea why though.

EDIT #2: BWAHAHAHAHA!

Spoiler

I rule.

 

[Fourputt]

Anybody but me wonder how a supposedly accomplished golfer couldn't tell that he was hitting juiced balls?

Besides, it wouldn't have led to a good score because he'd have been going nuts trying to get his approach distances right. You don't walk out on the course hitting the ball 10% to 20% longer and just instantly adjust and shoot a 61.

 

[Harry Longshanks]

Anybody but me wonder how a supposedly accomplished golfer couldn't tell that he was hitting juiced balls?

Besides, it wouldn't have led to a good score because he'd have been going nuts trying to get his approach distances right. You don't walk out on the course hitting the ball 10% to 20% longer and just instantly adjust and shoot a 61.

But remember, his caddy knew the balls were juiced and kept handing him the right clubs, which he willingly accepted without question.

 

[ClairefromClare]

But remember, his caddy knew the balls were juiced and kept handing him the right clubs, which he willingly accepted without question.

Just like any pro would do. Right.

 

[Fourputt]

But remember, his caddy knew the balls were juiced and kept handing him the right clubs, which he willingly accepted without question.

But with a ball he's never played before, even the caddy wouldn't know how far he hit it with his irons. And any player who takes everything his caddy hands him on faith....

Just look at how hard it is to pick the right club for distance and conditions when you are intimately familiar with the ball. Then throw an unknown, hot ball into the mix and you'll be totally screwed up. The first time he airmails a green he figures it's coincidence... the next time he questions, and the third time he's going to ask his caddy what the Hell is going on. Think about the chipping and putting aspects. No caddy influence there. When the CSI discovered the juiced ball it was bouncing like a superball in the lab... that ball would jump off the putter or wedge almost uncontrollably.

When that thought struck me, it sort of killed the rest of the show. I felt that it was based on a premise that no good golfer could mistake as coincidence, nor adjust to on the fly fast enough to recover enough to shoot a 61. They even said that he had never shown any indication of having such a game in him, which leads me to believe that he also wouldn't have the game to make the quick adjustments necessary to play well with a ball that was doing weird things.

In my opinion, the whole idea was flawed and not the sort of plot you'd expect to see if it was written by a real golfer. :confused2: